Newspaper Archive of
Heritage Florida Jewish News
Fern Park , Florida
February 14, 2003     Heritage Florida Jewish News
PAGE 7     (7 of 36 available)        PREVIOUS     NEXT      Full Size Image
PAGE 7     (7 of 36 available)        PREVIOUS     NEXT      Full Size Image
February 14, 2003

Newspaper Archive of Heritage Florida Jewish News produced by SmallTownPapers, Inc.
Website © 2020. All content copyrighted. Copyright Information.     Terms Of Use.     Request Content Removal.

JEWISH NEWS, FEBRUARY 14, 2003 PAGE 7 Ramon: Interview of a hero summer before the first Israeli Astronaut, take flight in the Space Shuttle honor of interviewing him for the website magazine I publish ( He was gra- and above all, modest. Though clearly his him an extraordinary person, speak- Ilan seemed like such a "regular guy:" a father, a son, a person just doing his job. Far from regular, along with his 6 astronaut colleagues were of e. eXceptional people, and now sadly in their tragic deaths, tr~ire us as heroes. To further inspire you, here is the ,his memory and those of his be a blessing to his family, the US, Israel and to all g: If you wouldn't mind just giving me a you are from? Where you were I was born in Israel in Ramat Gan in 1954 - my father from Germany, Berlin - he made aliyah just on time my mother is originally from Poland. She is a and she arrived in Israel in 1949. I have since 19721 am in the Israeli Air Force, a 5-year break in service during 1983 -1988. I flew Mirage and I actually fly nee 1980 until this very day. I got married in 1986. My she is from Israel. We have four kids, three boys, girl, 4 years old. ,are all with you here in the Yes, all of us have been here exactly three years. We r training at NASA JSC -' What does that stand for? Space Center. This is actually the center of all so all the astronauts are here. Are you there with astronauts from ? Yes, all the astronauts are right here. 'g: What other countries are currently now they have about 150 or 160 astronauts, 25 are international. All the international guys, :maybe for me are connected to the space station - the ,are coming from countries In this program, which there are actually 16 states -11 Russia Canada, Japan, Brazil. ,trainee who is not the Space Station? now I believe I am the only one. How did that happen? late '95 in an agreement between President Clinton nd Prime Minister Peres, the US offered Israel to have a mutual trial space program and actually invited Israel to conduct a space experiment on the space shuttle with an Israeli astronaut. And how were you selected? ILAN: The state of Israel decided the first one would be from the Air Force - much like here in the US, by the way. In most countries I believe, maybe all of them, the first astronauts were all pilots. So they decided that. So the Air Force got into the selection process which is exactly the same they do for any kind of nomination within the Air Force. It sounds very competitive ILAN: It is very competitive. They had two requirements - one was to have a technical or science education and secondly was to be involved in experiments in the Israeli Air Force. So whoever answered these two requirements was on the list and they selected me in the same selection process they do for any kind of position in the Air Force. Do you remember how you felt when you learned that you had won? ILAN: I was excited, (laughs) I was very excited and all kinds of pictures were moving in my head. Of course I didn't know too much about the space program at that time because it wasn't any kind of a dream for me, especially because nobody had done it yet at the time from Israel. At least myself, I didn't think about it and at that time I was on the way to retire from the Air Force and in a few months I wouldn't be there any more so it was a surprise for me and I was very excited. What sort of pictures did you envision in your mind? ILAN: Well, seeing earth from space, floating around and all this stuff you see in the movies you know. I was very excited. How did your father react? ILAN: He was excited as well. He is excited still until this day. And you are the only Israeli training now, right? ILAN: Right. So what does it mean to you on a personal level to be representing Israel? ILAN: It is an exciting time for me. First of all, because space is exciting and to be here in training to know closely almost all the astronauts - every mission that they fly - to know at least one or two very closely. So you are kind of very involved in everything that goes on here. And from the representative point of view, I really feel that I represent not only the Air Force but all of the Israeli state and the Jewish communities in the US and wherever they are. I meet a lot of Jewish organizations and people here in the US and some time I feel maybe it's even more important and they appreciate maybe much more than the Israelis - this kind of event. For them it is a big event - it's a big issue. The American Jews? ILAN: Yes, to have an Israeli Jewish person to fly to space I think it is much more appreciated here in the US by the Jewish people. Wait until you fly and then watch the reaction in Israel. ILAN: Right, - I mean everybody is going to be excited but it is much more symbolic for the Jewish community here. I think they appreciate it more. Why do you think that is? ILAN: I didn't think it over too deeply but I think there are several reasons. One of them is probably that there is so much going on in Israel that they don't have too much time to appreciate this. And the second is that in Israel - and I learned it only from being here - you don't appreciate so much your See "Gil Mann" on page 12 Central Florida Synagogue Service Schedule and Directory Celebration Jewish Congregation (Rec), Navigator School, 607 Celebration Avenue, Celebration, 407-596-5397, 7 p.m. first and third Fridays each month. Congregation Ahavas Yisrael/Chabad (O), 708 Lake Howell Rd Maitland, 407-644-2500; Services: Sunday, 8 a.m Mon-Fri, 7 a.m Fri 6:30 p.m Sat. 9:30 a.m. Family Service 4th Friday of the month. Congregation Bet Chaim (R), 1033 Semoran Blvd Suite 151, Casselberry, 407-830-7211; Shabbat service, 8 p.m. Congregation Beth Am (C), 3899 Sand Lake Road, Longwood, 407-862- 3505; Shabbat service, 8:15 p.m.; Saturday: 10 a.m Junior Cong 10:45 a m. Congregation Beth El (C), 2185 Meadowlane Ave West Melbourne, 321- 779-0740; Services, 8 p.m. 1st & 3rd Fridays; 9:30 a.m. 2nd & 4th Saturdays. Congregation Beth Emeth (R), 1016 Yorkshire Ridge Ct Orlando, 407-855- 0772; Services once a month, 8 p.m. Congregation Beth Shalom (C), 315 North 13th St Ix.esburg, 352-315-0770 Congregation B'nai HaShem, An internet synagogue. 407-767-7502. Congregation B'nai Torah (C), 445 S. Nova Rd Ormond Beach, 32174, 386-672-1174; Services Friday, 8 p.m.; Saturday, 10 a.m. Congregation Chabad (O), 1301 S. Patrick Dr. #62, Satellite Beach, 321-777- 2770. Congregation Cbabad Lubavitch of Greater Daytona (0), 1079 W. Granada Blvd Ormond Beach, 386-672-9300; Shabbat services Fri. 7:30 p.m Sat. l0 a.m. Congregation of Liberal Judaism (R), 928 Malone Dr Orlando, 407-645- 0444; Shabbat service, 8 p.m.; except I st Friday, Family services begin 7 p.m. Saturday: 10 a.m. Congregation Mateh Chabu (R), P.O. Box 060847, Palm Bay, 32906, 321- 768-6722. Congregation Ohev Shalom (C), 5015 Goddard Ave Orlando, 407-298- 4650; Shabbat service, 8:15 p.m.; Saturday: 9 a.m.; Junior Cong 10:15 a.m. Congregation Shalom Aleichem (R), 3501 ()ak Pointe Blvd Kissimmee, 407-935-0064; Shabbat service, 8 p.m 1st and 3rd Fridays of the month. Congregation Shalom, Williamsburg (R), P.O. Box 691081, Orlando, 32869: Friday night services once a month at 7:30 p.m. at the Rosen Centre, 9840 International Drive, Orlando. 407.238-7943. Southwest Orlando Jewish Congregation/Ohalei Rivka (C), 11200 S. Apopka-Vineland Rd Orlando, 407-239-5444; Shabbat service, 7:30 p.m.; Saturday: 9:30 a.m. Temple Beth El (R), 579 N. Nova Rd Ormond Beach, 386-677-2484. Temple Beth Shalom (R), P.O. Box 0313, Winter Haven, 813-324-2882. Temple Beth Shalom (C), 40 Wellington Drive, Palm Coast, 386-445-3006; Shabbat service, 8 p.m.; Saturday 9 a.m. Temple Beth Sholom (C), 5995 N. Wickham Rd. Melbourne, 321-254-6333. Temple B'nai Darom (R), 49 Banyan Course, Ocala, 352-624-0380; Friday Services 8 p.m. Temple Israel (C), 407-647-3055; Shabbat service; 6:15 p.m.; Saturday: 9:30 a.m. Temple Israel (R), 7350 Lake Andrew Drive, Melbourne, 321-631-9494. Temple Israel (C), 1400 S. Peninsula Ave Daytona Beach, 904-252-3097; Shabbat service, 8 p.m.; Saturday: 9 a.m. Temple Israel (C), 1001 E. New York Ave DeLand, 386-736-1646; Shabbat service, 7:30 p.m. Temple Shalom of Deltona (R/C), 1785 Elkcam Bird, Deltona, 904-789- 2202; Shabbat service, l0 a.m. Saturday. Temple Shir Shalom of Oviedo (R); Shabbat service, 7:30 p.m. 1st Friday of the month at Oviedo Women's Club, 414 King Street. Info: 407-977-5172 or 407-366-8399. (Check with individual synagogues for the dates and times of services if not listed) (R) Reform (C) Conservative (O) Orthodox (Rec) Reconstructionist By Michael Garrison of aloofness, which allowed ersatthe Galvin Libraryat IIT him to conduct interviews in a discovered a set of typed tran- scientific nature. He was able scriptions of these forgotten to glean very specific anec- tapes. It soon became appar- dotal information through his ent that this resource was of research process. This same great value to Holocaust re- abilitytodistancehimselffrom searchers and students. The the survivors he interviewed library has created a website is difficult to listen to. You where the world can access wonder how anybody could these documents and has ob- voice of the Shoah hear story after story of trag- tained many of the original edy and maintain a scientist's recordings from the Libraryof Dr. corderthatrecordedvoiceson objectivity. Congress. These recordings Boder as a result wire and 200 spools of carbon The places and events we are available as streaming au- National steelwire. It isahard to imag- have come to understand as dio on the website. The site is "This Ameri- ine a post wartime when the the language of the Holocaust very well laid out with lots of Program. The seg- world was not aware of the did not exist to the outside searchable data from Boder's entitled "Before It vast Nazi genocide machine, world before someone docu- original research. The tran- It dealt with butin 1946theworldwasjust merited them. In many cases scribed interviews are haunt- subtopics, one awakening from the longBoder had to ask survivors for ing and speak ofa time before d Boder nightmare. Boder'swire spool explanations and descriptions people could fathom such or- Boder was a re-recordings serve as the very ofeventsandplaces, whichwe ganized and massive brutal- for the Illi- firstoralhistoriesoftheHolo- as 21st century Jews are far ity. Of Technology caust, too aware of. "What is meant To learn more about Boder before the Holo-Boderinterviewedsurvivors by Death March? What is I suggest visiting NPR's "This t name. This lack of in displaced person and refu- Auschwitz? What was theAmerican Life Site" at for the gee camps. The experiences of uniform of camp prisoners?" Lookforthe gives Boder's these survivors were not dis- "WherewasBuchenwald?"Lis- archived show from October taut memories. The survivors teningtothesetapesandread- 26, 2001 entitled "Before It described, in specific detail, ing the transcripts is like tak- Had A Name." After listening Stories to come. their terrifying experiences as ing a trip back in time towhen to the story about Dr. Boder, camps were wellastheirimmeasurableloss, the horroroftheyet unnamed visit the liT archives at http:// the end of Boder'svoiceanddemeanoras Jewish tragedy was just be- Eisenhower the interviewer is both reas- coming known to the world, oral histories at these sites are journalists tosuring and unnerving. Boder's tapes were eventu- a living testimony to those As a researcher, he was able ally stored at The Library of survivors who had the cour- tted. Boder tray- to speak to victims in their Congress. They were soon for- age to tell their stories before native tongue (he spoke 7 lan- gotten among the decades of the world knew there was a a re- guages). He maintained asort archivedhistory.In 1998,staff- story to hear. Margo Baron Your Southwest Neighbor Office: (407) 948-8317 Fax: (407) 876-1873 1743 Park Center Drive Orlando, FL 32835 r Join David and Shelly Sokol your Florida friends at - Owners OF CENTRAL FLORIDA Register Now For Our 33rd Summer For Boys & Girls 6-15 A magnificent IOO acre Air Conditioned camp in the hills near Ocala National Forest. Beautiful, Sandy Beach with Spring Lake, swimming pool, boating, fishing, canoeing, Wave Runner, and water skiing. On land, new confidence ropes course, all sports, roller- blading, tennis, archery, riflery, crafts, and drama. BOX 160306, Miami, FL 33116 Phone 800-279-0401 Judaic Program